On May 19, three important chip information emerged: the Snapdragon Summit (the second generation Snapdragon 8 Ultimate Edition) will be released on September 23, the score and process information of Xiaomi Xuanjie O1 will be released, and nova 14 Pro/Ultra will debut Kirin 8020.
On May 19, Qualcomm did not notify the owner of Shenzhen Bay No.1, but suddenly announced at the Taipei Computer Exhibition, This year's Dragon Summit ↑ will be held on September 23 , one month earlier than usual.
Every year, the protagonist of the Dragon Summit is the new flagship chip of Dragon, that is [Second generation Snapdragon 8 Ultimate Edition] September is coming No wonder the pace of new machines is ahead of schedule this year.
[The second generation Snapdragon 8 Premium], that is, a summary of the SM8850's existing disclosures:
TSMC N3P (3nm) process, the frequency continues to increase, at least 20%+performance improvement;
The second generation Oryon CPU is also 2 performance cores+6 energy efficiency cores, which makes up for the missing SME1/SVE2 instruction set of the previous generation (supported by Tianji 9400 and A18 series)+supports LPDDR6 memory, with a performance increase of about 25%;
Adreno 840 GPU, GPU independent cache from 12MB to 16MB, with single frame level power reduction technology;
NPU calculation force with 100TOPS;
The performance setting is [rabbit level 3.8 million].
If the refrigerator scores, the performance is improved by 19.5%. If the corresponding score is run at room temperature, it will be increased by 27.6%.
PS: Snapdragon 8 Premium Edition (one plus 13) Angu Rabbit has a total score of 3.18 million points (refrigerator score) and a room temperature of about 2.9 million points (starting temperature of 27.3 degrees).
In the past two years, Qualcomm and Fage have suddenly rolled up. The time of new products has gradually moved forward from the end of November and October, and now they are all rolled up to the September of iPhone update - this year You may see the Android flagship and iPhone updated in the same month The historic moment (think they were stagger for nearly half a year).
In the future, it's really time to change the release time of the domestic image flagship. This generation of image flagship can only be the real flagship for 5 months.
Meizu 22 released in July is even worse, Qualcomm! You charm! The title of "True Flagship" only has a two month shelf life
On May 19, Xiaomi released some information about his second self-developed SoC Xuanjie O1. Contrary to all previous expectations, the Xiaomi Xuan Jie O1 is not competing with Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 or Snapdragon 8 Gen 2, but with Snapdragon 8 Ultimate Edition.
Xuanjie O1 uses TSMC's 3nm process and is also a dual X925 core 10 core CPU, which has exceeded Tianji 9400 and Apple A18 Pro.
On the same day, Xiaomi officially announced that Xuanjie O1, Xiaomi 15S Pro, Xiaomi Tablet 7 Ultra and Xiaomi Yu7, the first SUV of Xiaomi, will be released at 19:00 on May 22. The slogan of the press conference is "new starting point".
Xiaomi claims:
Xiaomi started to work on chips in 2014, set up a project in September 2014, and released S1 in 2017.
Then turn to the "small chip" route, such as fast charging chip, power management chip, antenna enhancement chip, image chip, etc.
stay Restart the "big chip" business in early 2021 . Declare that by the end of April 2025, Xuanjie has invested more than 13.5 billion yuan in R&D. The R&D team has more than 2500 people, and the R&D investment is expected to exceed 6 billion yuan this year.
[Xiaomi Xuanjie O1] Summary of existing messages:
TSMC's second generation 3nm (N3E) process, 19 billion transistors, 10 cores and 4 clusters design, CPU with 2+4+2+2 structure, 2 3.9GHz X925+4 3.4GHz large cores+2 1.89GHz+2 1.8GHz, cache size unknown. The GPU is Immortalis G925, also the same generation as Tianji 9400 (CPU stacking is stronger than Tianji 9400, but after all, there is no integrated baseband, and the number of transistors is far lower than Tianji 9400's 29.1 billion) (it will be released on May 22, 25, and will be first launched by Xiaomi 15S Pro and Xiaomi Tablet 7 Ultra)
(By the afternoon of May 19, Xiaomi 15S Pro had 31 GeekBench running separately ↑)
From the score run of GeekBench of Xuanjie O1, we can see that Two super cores, 3.9GHz X925 (Same as Tianji 9400, but the latter is a 3.62GHz X925). This stack of materials has multi-core performance. Only Snapdragon 8 Ultimate can compete with it
Not only is the CPU of 2 (X925)+4+2+2 huge, but also the GPU is the same generation as Tianji 9400, namely Immortalis-G925.
In fact, even if the process is not officially announced, it can be confirmed from the architecture and frequency that the process is at least the second generation of TSMC 3nm (N3E) process at the same level as the Snapdragon 8 Ultimate/Tianji 9400/A18 series - among the mass production processes, only TSMC 3nm can make the X925 super core reach 3.9GHz (corresponding to GeekBench 6 single core 3100 points).
Comparison between Xuanjie O1 and the current three flagship brands:
• Compared with Snapdragon 8E, Xuanjie O1 is about 2% weaker in both single core and multi core. The super core frequency is 10.8% lower, but the "same frequency run" is 8% higher;
• Compared with Tianji 9400, Xuanjie O1 is 9.2% stronger in single core and 6.2% stronger in multi core. The super core frequency is 7.2% higher, and the "same frequency run" is 2% higher;
• Compared with Apple A18 Pro, the single core of Xuanjie O1 is 11% weaker and the multi-core is 12% stronger. The super core frequency is 3.6% lower, and the "same frequency score" is 7% lower (the super core same frequency performance is still Apple's strongest)
Xiaomi Xuanjie O1 is a 19 billion transistor, on the same level as Apple A17 Pro.
Because of the lack of baseband, NPUs may not stack as fast as Qualcomm, Apple, and Fage. So even if the "10 core dual X925" CPU is used, the number of transistors is not exaggerated.
If the cache is not hacked, but only controls the parts of the NPU that are not perceived clearly now, then the chip may indeed be "easy to use and inexpensive" after being scaled up (but from the above "single core performance and frequency" ratio, The X925 cache of Xuanjie O1 should be 2MB L2 like Tianji 9400, and may even exceed ）。
Ah, by the way, finally I will add a summary of [10 core CPUs]. The SoC chips of 10 core CPUs are more than expected. They are listed in the order of time:
[Xiaomi Xuanjie O1] For the CPU with 2+4+2+2 structure, only two super cores are known to be X925, and the GPU is Immortalis-G925 (to be released on May 22, 25)
[Lenovo SS1101] It may be a 5nm process, 10 core CPU is equipped with 2+2+3+3 (Arm v8), 2x super core 3.29GHz+2 1.9GHz+3 2.83GHz+3 1.71GHz (see YOGA Pad Pro 14.5 AI version launched on May 8, 25). Could it be the product of Lenovo Dingdao Zhixin?)
[Samsung Exynos 2500] 10 core CPU, 1+2+5+2 structure X925+7 A725+2 A520, 3.3GHz X925 super core+2 2.75GHz A725+5 2.36GHz A725+2 1.8GHz A520. The XClipse 950 1306MHz GPU (appeared in the GeekBench 6 database on January 26, 25, but has not yet been released. Single core 2358/multi-core 8211, possibly launched by the small folding Galaxy Z Flip7)
Apple M4 28 billion transistors, TSMC N3E process, the full blood version is four big six small CPUs with 16GB of memory, the three cylinder version is three big six small CPUs with 8GB of memory, and the architecture is newer than A17 Pro. Performance core 4.4GHz, 16MB L2; Energy efficiency core 2.85GHz, 4MB L2. The 10 core GPU is 1.47GHz, 160EU+1280ALU (released on May 7, 24, the first M-series chip launched on the iPad Pro)
[Samsung Exynos 2400/2400e] Samsung 4nm (4LPP+) process, 10 core CPU with 1+2+3+4 structure, 1 3.2GHz X4+2 2.9GHz A720+3 2.6GHz A720+4 1.95GHz A520 (Exynos 2400e reduces X4 to 3.1GHz), XClipse 940 GPU (based on AMD RDNA 3, 6 WGP. Code Magellan (Magellan) (released in the first quarter of 2024, the same generation as Snapdragon 8 Gen 3, and seen in Samsung Galaxy S24/S24+/S24 FE in some regions)
[Apple M2 Pro Remnant Blood Edition] 6 large+4 small 10 core version, maximum frequency 3.5GHz (see MacBook Pro 14 inch), GeekBench 6 single core 2641/multi-core 12109
Although the topic is partial, we have to mention:
9-core CPU 【Google Tensor G3】 Samsung 4nm process, extremely special 9-core design, 1+4+4. One 2.91GHz X3+four 2.37GHz A715+four 1.7GHz A510, Mali-G715 MC10 (performance and energy efficiency pull the hip, not as good as the flagship new products of Fage and Qualcomm. The CPU single core can not do as well as Exynos 2200, and the energy efficiency refresh is low, which is not as good as our own G1, Exynos 2200 and Snapdragon 8 Gen 1. GPU can't win Exynos 2200, which is about 9000 level of Tianji. Released on October 4, 2023, see Google Pixel 8 series)
[MediaTek Helio X20] (MT6797, Helio translated as "Sunlight"), TSMC 20nm process, the first 2+4+4 10 core 3-cluster CPU, and the first 10 core CPU SoC in mobile phone history. Two 2.1GHz A72+four 1.85GHz A53+four 1.4GHz A53, Mali-T880 MP4 @ 780MHz (the concept is very advanced, and the chip released in May 2015 uses the 3-cluster design. But they were too advanced and became martyrs. Both arm and Android were not ready at that time, which became the source of the allusion of "one core is difficult and nine cores are around").
MediaTek Helio X23 (MT6797D), X25 (MT6797T), X27 (MT6797X), you can see the frequency progression relationship of the four chips by looking at the suffix.
[MediaTek Helio X30] MT6799， TSMC 10nm process, 2+4+4 10 core 3-cluster CPU, 2 2.6GHz A73+4 2.2GHz A53+4 1.9GHz A53, PowerVR 7XTP-MT4 @ 850MHz (released in the second quarter of 2017, the process and big core architecture are different)
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